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the papal conclave in rome is rich with history. i want to gif you a bit of the fascinating back story how the catholic church has chosen leaders. it's a story full of surprising facts. the conclave it's a solemn process dating to the middle ages and born out of frustration after cardinals took three years to select a pope. the locals tore the roof off the building where they were meeting and decided to lock them in to speed a decision. eventually, pope gregory x was chosen. he wanted to avoid a repeat of his experience. thus, the conclave, with key, became a tradition. they would get one meal a day if they took more than three days to decide and bread, water and wine if it went beyond eight. the food restrictions are gone but pope gregory would be proud.
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they have chosen a pope within three days. if history is a guide, age, experience are clues. jofs was 78 when he was pope benedict xvi in 2005 but he wasn't the oldest pope. in the 12th and 13th centuries, two doned their robes at 80 and 85. he was a youthful 18 when he assumed the papacy. he had help of his father who fixed the election of his only son before his death. only one man was not a cardinal first. he was named pope urban vi back in 1378. the italians have clearly had the homefield advantage, dominating it through the centuries. the conclave produced the closest thing to a genuine surprise we have had in decades. the first non-italian. the outcome is predictable.
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without a clear front-runner going in this time, this conclave could be a cliff hanger. indeed, it could be. we'll be back in an hour. we'll be back in an hour. i hope you join us. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >> out front next, another battle between the republicans. this one part wayne's world and part white snake. that's no joke. we are still looking at smoke to see who will be the next smoke. and a man accused of murdering 12 people in a yo kro theater was expecting to plead insanity today. we saw him for the first time in months. let's go out front. >> good evening, everyone. "out front" tonight, the budget
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drifter walks alone. we've learned quite a bit about paul ryan's musical tastes. >> today, we learned a little bit more about what falls in between. w, as in white snake. ♪ here i go again on my own ♪ going down the only road i've ever known ♪ like a drifter i was born to walk alone ♪ >> he was walking alone again. without any support from across the aisle from his budget proposal. and when he introduced his latest economic blueprint, it sounded awfully familiar. >> now, let's step into our time machine and head all the way back to march 2012 to a place like mike myers.
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>> paul ryan walks the only road he's ever known while the president is reaching out to his republican foes. ryan's fellow, republican congressman, peter king of new york. good to see you, sir. >> always appreciate it. >> president obama has been making a bit of an effort: is paul ryan doing the same? >> yeah, of course he is. republicans have their marker there. the president is coming to meet with us tomorrow. and i'm hopeful, listen, this is not going to change overnight. but i think we can have a constructive dialogue and debate. hopefully, the democrats will come out with their budget. the senate democrats will come up with their budget. the president will come out with his. all of that has to be very poz pif. especially the president coming tomorrow. there's more to politics and government and people liking each other and getting together.
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it is a good step. i think, to me, i'm satisfied the president is coming and i think it can be very helpful. >> so paul ryan, i want to get to the bottom of this. he says he'll support 4$4.6 trillion in spending cuts over the next ten years. but then i get a little confused. he's going to cut taxes for everyone and get two tax brackets of 10 and 20%. and then medicare is going to become private subsidized health care plans for people under 55 and eliminates the federal program. if you're cutting taxes by that much, it sounds like, well, it sounds like you're cutting those other things dramatically, too. >> well, yeah, paul leaves it out in there. to me, this is a very good blueprint to go forward on. i also support tax cuts. i do think that ultimately, tax cuts do generate more revenue. i come from the jack kemp school of republican party which does believe in tax cuts. but, again, this is our plan on the table.
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president should come forward with his and we'll go forward from there. this is a divided government. the republican realizes that. we're going with what we feel is our best case. and it's really not challenging, but it's asking the president come forward with his. the fact that he's coming in tomorrow. we'll go over some of these issues with him. and it will be a good first step. >> you know what's kind of amazing about that. some of your fell loe republicans, just like you, you know what, he's doing a good job. john mccain called his comments sincere. lindsey graham called it serious. i want to play for you what senator tom coburn said about the president sunday on "meet the press." >> he is moving in the right direction. i'm proud of him for doing it and i think it's a great thing. >> now, that's a republican coming out and supporting the president. it sounds like it's more than just rhetoric. it's more than just a visit. do you agree that this is a significant move and out reach by the president? >> it is.
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especially since he has not reached out that much over the last several years. i think the last time he did this was in 2009. the first week or two he was in office. it's not the be all and end all. he is the president of the united states. he's entitled to respect or entitled to presume that he's being sincere. he's sbielt ld to that. and, again, it can be a good start. and paul ryan's budget, you've got the president with his blueprint. i'm much more optimistic than i was a month or so ago. having said that, it's still a long way to go. i've been in politics a long time. this gets me close to paul ryan's budget. he says obama care is going to get repealed. even chris wallace on fox news was a little bit shocked by that. here's the exchange on that.
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>> are you saying that as part of your budget, you would appeal the resume of obama care? >> yes. >> well, that's not going to happen. >> all right. he said it pretty firmly. that is the truth, congressman. it's not going to happen. >> well, first of all, it is opposition. obama care should be repealed. so, again, when you get to the table, that's what negotiations are all about. >> but let me ask you this. eight republican governors have stopped fighting obama care all together. they've accepted the president's medicaid extension. among them, new jersey governor chris christie. he spoke about this incident recently. here he is. >> i am no fand of the affordable care act. i think it's wrong for new jersey. and i think it's wrong for america. i faugt against it and believe in the long run it will not
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achieve what it promises. however, it is now the law of the land. so the positionings working. 69% of new jersey voters say he's handling it right. isn't this proof for your party it's time to abandon the obama care boogieman? >> first of all, i have a great respect for chris choreograph. paul ryan has to represent the views of all of the republicans in the congress. again, especially from new york, i think that once you get at a table and the negotiation is going on, you take it from there. some interesting video we saw this week in the boxing ring. you landed some pretty good shots. here you are. you did land some pretty good shots. here we go, we're getting in the
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ring. and this is good. this is good. i'm impressed. you don't have any bruises in this. when you got in there, who are you imagining punching that you deal with every day? >>. >> i would say maybe the reporters. i'll leave it at that. >> there was a few people i had in mind. but i was trying to stay alive. >> thank you, erin. appreciate it. >> still out front, lansz armstrong says he is just like bill clinton. and rolling in the so-called cannibal cop case has some legal analysts asking can you go to jail for saying what you fantasize about.
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and as we get closer to a new pope, you'll meet a professional athlete who decided to give it all up for a higher calling. >> i find there's a much better way to use the game of soccer and that's to spread the word of the gospel and to glorify him. that's when i had an honest conversation with my doctor. we discussed all the symptoms... then he gave me some blood tests. showed it was low t. that's it. it was a number -- not just me. [ male announcer ] today, men with low t have androgel 1.62% (testosterone gel). the #1 prescribed topical testosterone replacement therapy, increases testosterone when used daily. women and chilen should avoid contact with application sites. discontinue androgel and call your doctor if you see unexpected signs of early puberty in a child, or signs in a woman, which may include changes in body hair or a large increase in acne, possibly due to accidental exposure. men with breast cancer or who have or might have prostate cancer, and women who are or may become pregnant or are breastfeeding,
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our second story "outfront," black smoke rising. the first ballot has been taken inside the sistine chapel tonight. there is no new pope yet. the secret election got under way after the large wooden doors were closed, and then the cardinals took an oath of secrecy. it is incredible. if you've been there as a tourist, you have the brief moments of what's going on in there. thousands gathered in st. peter's square to watch the chimney. that's where anderson cooper is tonight. anderson, obviously everyone's waiting to see the white smoke, the indication that they have a new pope. i know they have some smoke technology now, so hopefully we will see white or black, not just a shade of gray.
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but what did you see today? >> yeah, it was very black smoke when it finally did billow out. so clearly, the kinks in past years, they've worked them out. it was very clear with black smoke immediately. it was an extraordinary day. the pomp and pageantry, the history on display, really impressed. anybody watching on television, or anyone who had the privilege of actually being in st. peter's square. thousands came out throughout the day, even though there was a driving rain. people just kind of wanted to be here, wanted to be part of the history, and as you said, a vote was taken, one single vote, and then we saw the black smoke, meaning no pope has been selected. but sort of the politicking really begins after the vote is done. after they have had dinner, once the conclave is done for the day. and this evening, small groups, 115 cardinals will be meeting one with another discussing the results of this first vote. they will at least now have a sense of who the frontrunners
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really are, what names are really in contention, and the different blocks are going to be talking with one another, figuring out how they're going to vote tomorrow, and where they take it from there. >> sort of amazing to watch. maybe in part because there has been no change over so many years. that that's what makes this incredible. i know you're doing a special >> a fifth-year seminarn, chase is just a year away from becoming an ordained priest. >> the priesthood never seemed to be something i wanted for myself.
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it wasn't popular. it didn't excite me. it didn't excite me. >> growing up in a typical catholic family in bloomington, illinois, chase had a passion for soccer. in high school, he played for the under 16 u.s. national team and went on to play at clemson university. that's before he moved to chile to play in the pros. >> i moved to south america thinking that professional soccer was everything that i wanted in my life. >> but thousands of miles from friends and family, chase suddenly found himself alone and looking to god. >> i remember at that time just hearing the silence in my heart. be my priest. that's about the most uncomfortable thing that i can hear at this point. that's not comfort. and what i want, you know, is to be comfortable playing soccer and maybe a girlfriend and maybe a lot of friends and the limelight and the fame and the money that goes along with it. >> his prayers were answered in 2006. he won a national championship in chile and soon had everything he ever wanted. >> i met a great catholic girl.
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we started dating and ended updating for a couple years actually. had all kinds of friends. i was truly living the life that i dreamed of. >> but it wasn't enough. chase says something was still missing. even though he seemed to have it all. >> i'm 25 years old and there's got to be something more. i can't live thinking that i've already experienced everything that i wanted in my life. i knew at that time what it was. i knew that i was called to the priesthood, although i didn't want to accept it. >> three months after signing a contract with major league soccer's new england revolution, chase walked away from the game of his dreams to join the seminary. >> i found that there's a much greater way that i can use the game of soccer, and that's to spread the gospel, to glorify him in everything that i do. now i'm the chaplain of the division one men's soccer team here on campus, so i'm essentially doing more in the sport than i ever have before. >> you've probably heard about the decline in the number of priests. it's pretty stunning. since 1965, the number of
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catholic priests in america has fallen by nearly a third, but get this -- according to one study, 58% of american catholic boys between the ages of 13 and 18 have considered a vocation in the church, and as we saw, the seminary at mount st. mary's is full of young men like chase hilgenbrinck. that's despite the strict vow of celibacy that every priest has to take. >> i've learned now that celibacy is not so much a sacrifice as it is just a new way to love. i'm called to love in the same way that jesus christ loved his people. that's a lot to live up to, but i'm ready for that challenge. >> and as the world waits for a new pope, so does soon-to-be father chase hilgenbrinck. >> an exciting time for our church, to see what god has in store for us and this next pope. >> pretty amazing story. "outfront" next, there's another manhunt under way for a suspect who may be targeting authorities for execution. plus, facebook. can it tell if you're stupid, or at the least tell your iq? and espn making a major decision involving the x games tonight. now an update to a story we brought you in january. according to a report on espn.com, two events at the x games have been discontinued, including the snowmobile event. this is a different snowmobile competition than the one that took the life of snowmobiler caleb moore, who died after a crash at the x games in athens.
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that event is called the snowmobile freestyle and it's come under fire ever since his death when he was thrown from the snowmobile. you may remember these images. a report says the event was not dropped in response of what happened to caleb and that the freestyle event is still under review. and now our third story "outfront." a murder suspect surrounded. a 72-hour manhunt for suspected killer and ex-con michael boysen is now centered around this hotel in lincoln city, oregon, about 90 miles southwest of portland. police are negotiating with him, who allegedly killed his grandparents over the weekend on his first night home with prison. authorities say he is extremely dangerous because they believe
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he has been stockpiling weapons. casey is "outfront" with new information. what can you tell us? >> reporter: here's what we know. i just spoke with the police chief of lincoln city, oregon. he says negotiations are continuing and that is obviously a good sign. what happened is the police got a tip from a worker, a clerk at this motel this morning. she was watching the morning news and saw a report about michael and the manhunt and she recognized him as someone who had checked into that motel the night before, last night. what's really interesting here is he checked in under his own name and using his own driver's license, according to police. of course, what they've been really worried about is they found in their investigation since these two murders occurred on either friday night or saturday morning, they found out that he had been searching the internet looking for places to buy guns as far away as nevada. he is a convicted felon, he's had several arrests and convictions involving drugs and
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robberies. he can't buy a gun in a normal store, so he was looking at gun shows, police say, and that he had made threats to corrections officers, members of his own family. so they were very scared that they didn't know where he was for a long time. now they know where he is, or at least they think they do and they're still negotiating, but no resolution yet, erin. >> a lot of people are going to pay attention to that and the gun show loophole that you mentioned. but what about the motive? they're saying he allegedly killed his grandparents over the weekend when he got out of prison. do they have any idea why? >> they don't have any idea about a motive, but one of the things they're looking into, he was supposed to go to rehab either today or tomorrow. he was released from prison on friday. he has four of his previous convictions, involved robberies, oxycontin.
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so he's been a prescription drug addict. >> thanks very much, casey. still "outfront," james holmes was expected to enter a plea of not guilty by reason of insanity for the murder of 12 people at a movie theater. today his lawyers got cold feet, and we got to see him for the first time in months. we have that for you. and a former cop going to jail partially for what he fantasized about doing to his wife. meet the 5-passenger ford c-max hybrid. and then this picture, why it is causing such an uproar. c-max go. c-max give a ride to everyone it knows. c max has more passenger volume than competitor prius v and we haven't even mentioned... c-max also gets better mpg. say hi to the super fuel efficient ford c-max hybrid. today is gonna be an important day for us. you ready? we wanna be our brother's keeper. what's number two we wanna do? bring it up to 90 decatherms. how bout ya, joe?
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welcome back to second half of "outfront." we. welcome back to the second half of "outfront." we begin with this, the old
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adage you can't buy happiness. you sure can buy a seat in congress. according to new findings, it can be done. just costs money. according to a report, $1.7 million is the average to win a house seat. $10.5 million in the senate. that is only going do go up. after all, the presidential candidates each spent more than a billion dollars in 2012 and says senate races could be $50 million each. surveillance video of a drive-by shooting has been released by the metropolitan police department in washington. this shooting actually took place right near the capitol. early on monday morning. we'll show this to you in slow motion. police say 12 pedestrians were injured by a spray of bullets that came from at least one car. they're looking for two vehicles and calling it an assault with intent to kill. police say a motive hasn't been identified because an investigation is still ongoing. a website has posted what
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appears to be social security numbers and personal information belonging to a lot of important people in washington and hollywood. first lady michelle obama, beyonce, and even the fbi director robert mueller. pretty shocking. it's not clear whether they were hacked or whether the information was pulled from public records, but we are told that the secret service and the fbi are investigating and our security expert tells us the u.s. needs to strengthen its data protection laws. we are painful aware the next war will likely include cyber attacks. a coincidence? just a few moments ago, a modified 747 sharing parts with the 787 dreamliner was forced to make an emergency landing in seattle. the faa proposed to have a fix to battery problems and the fire that led to groundings. the parts don't even seem to be able to get off the ground. the fix includes a redesign that would minimize the odds of a battery short circuiting. the faa will only approve the redesign if boeing can pass safety tests.
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until then, that plane is on the ground. it's 586 days since the united states lost its top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? the president is wining and dining. we'll give him credit. that will be today's check. 586 is getting awfully high, people. our fourth story "outfront." the accused colorado mass shooter got arraigned. in a twist, lawyers for james holmes say he actually wasn't ready to enter a plea, so a judge did it for him. issued the standard not guilty plea. holmes is accused of gunning down movie goers at the screening of "the dark knight rises" last year. 12 people died in the incident. 58 were wounded. insanity is expected to be a major part of the proceedings. he could have pled insanity and avoid jail. there's a good chance his lawyers could still pursue that. >> reporter: as james holmes walked into the courtroom, marcus weaver was watching his every move. >> according to what i saw and just being in the same room, i feel that he didn't seem out of touch. >> reporter: there's a good possibility his lawyers will be pursuing an insanity defense.
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if they do, colorado requires that holmes undergo extensive psychiatric testing which could include not only a lie detector test, but truth serum. >> the person will be given an i.v. and given a little bit of the medicine and then just start asking him questions and they start talking. >> reporter: dr. max walktell is a forensic psychologist. truth serum can come in different forms. the problem he says is that truth serum doesn't necessarily work. >> they could be lying. they could be hallucinating and talking about stuff that never happened. they could be making stuff up. all kinds of things can come out of a person's mouth when they're under the influence of a drug
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like that. >> reporter: none of the experts we talked to seemed to remember truth serum actually being used to evaluate a prisoner. but judge william sylvester has approved the use of it on holmes if he pleads insanity, along with a full mental evaluation of holmes. his lawyers are worried that could end up being used against him. >> if they're seeking the death penalty, anything he says can be used not only to convict him, but to kill him as well. >> reporter: james holmes' parents attended tuesday's hearing but had nothing to say as they were leaving the courthouse. prosecutors say they plan to announce whether or not they'll seek the death penalty against james holmes at his next court appearance, which is scheduled for april 1st. ted rowlands, cnn, centennial, colorado. now to the infamous police officer known as the cannibal cop. he was convicted today in new york for plotting to kidnap, rape, and cook women. he never carried out his plot.
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but there was evidence that he took steps to make his cannibalism a reality, including a document found on his wife's laptop called "abducting and cooking kimberly, a blueprint." they are saying it's a fantasy and he never would have carried it out. is the verdict, a potential lifetime in jail justified? obviously the case itself extremely disturbing, but there are a lot of things when you think about what this could mean, in terms of precedence, that i want to get to. let me start with you, ann. is he being convicted for his thoughts? are you surprised by this? >> both. he's been convicted for his thoughts. it's like a penny for your thoughts. how about prison for your thoughts? shakespeare wrote about this, complaining about the puritans punishing people for their thoughts. that's why in the u.s., we have the first amendment. we have to have an act for a crime, and we have to have intent. he never had an act. we can think all kinds of things
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in this world and in this country and it's okay if we don't commit a crime. >> let me tell you what was told after reporters after the verdict. >> this case involved thoughts that were unusual and bizarre and frankly very ugly. and we think that the jury just couldn't get past that and they never got to the law. >> is that partially true? she's saying look, this is ugly. know one's trying to say that what he did or thought about was in any way pleasant, but it was still just a thought. wendy, go ahead. >> so here's the interesting thing. if the only thing the guy did was think bad thoughts, he wouldn't have been charged. lots of people do fantasize. when you mix sex into it, we think even bigger things about fantasy because lots of fantasy on the internet is sexual. but what this guy did wrong -- and he knows exactly what he did and why he was convicted. he went so far beyond
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fantasizing to naming 24 women that he was going to kill and cook, literally downloading personal and truthful information about actual women who he was planning to kidnap, kill, and cook. and he even went to the neighborhood of one of the victims after making an agreement with one of his co-conspirators to kill her and kidnap her for $5,000. that's a lot of overt acts. the conspiracy rule of law doesn't require that the final act actually occurred. that's the point. we are allowed to criminalize, prosecute, and punish the plan. why? because we don't want to wait until the person is dead before we do something about it, obviously. >> anne what about that point? you wouldn't want to take the risk. the document about his wife, abducting and cooking kimberly, a blueprint.
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you wouldn't want to take the risk to get to that point. >> but it was all fantasy. said it was fantasy. even his friend. i keep thinking of that line from moody blues. he said all along, "i'm kidding, this is just fantasy." going all along, imagine this blueprint. yeah, yeah, yeah. but they didn't do any act. not one overt act, which is required in federal court for conspiracy to convict him. and the fact is he thought creepy, bad thoughts. >> anne, he looked up a woman's name and he went to her neighborhood after making a plan to kidnap her for $5,000. and let's change the facts a little bit. let's say the guy pretended to be fantasizing about blowing up a plane. then looked on the internet to see when the planes might be arriving. then he went to laguardia.
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would you honestly be debating whether that guy should be prosecuted? are you kidding me? >> that's totally different. going to the airport. >> he went to the woman's neighborhood. same thing. >> that's a covert act. >> that's an overt act, at least, at least a very serious overt act. he did a lot of other things. >> covert, overt. >> how much time should he get in jail, wendy? he could get a lifetime. >> look, if they really believe that he was planning any of this stuff -- because this stuff does go on. the public doesn't like to think that women could be kidnapped and killed and that there's sadistic stuff going on out there. if that's real, he should get a lot of time behind barcelona. frankly, what i'd like to see is the nypd do an investigation of the case files. he was a cop for six years. he was investigating rain, sexual assault, domestic abuse. i'm taking a guess here, but i'm thinking he wasn't treating those crimes with the right kind of seriousness. and i'd like to know. >> i will hit pause right there. we will keep on. there's going to be an appeal. "outfront" next, lance
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armstrong says he's bill clinton. hmm. why one of our guests says he's pedaling in the wrong direction. what do you do if you're a sultan with a harem on a trip to the united states? of course, you meet with president obama and go shopping. president obama had a busy day. wasn't just wooing republicans. he met with the sultan of brunei. and during the meeting, the push push no? oh, right. you're thinking of the 1.6 million daily customer care interactions xerox handles. or the 900 million health insurance claims we process. so, it's no surprise to you that companies depend on today's xerox for services that simplify how work gets done. which is...pretty much what we've always stood for. with xerox, you're ready for real business. bob will retire when he's 153, which would be fine if bob were a vampire. but he's not. ♪
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president obama had a busy day. wasn't just wooing republicans. he met with the sultan of brunei. and during the meeting, the president said this. >> tomorrow, he's going to have a day to take his family to new york. we're going to encourage him to do some shopping because we want to continue to strengthen the u.s. economy. >> you thought that was a joke, right? no.
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24. that's the number of umbrellas the sultan of brunei purchased during his last visit to new york city. in 2010, on a whim, the sultan spent more than $500 on novelty umbrellas and over $20,000 on lizard skin handbags. but that was nothing to him. because the sultan spends a lot more than that here in new york. he's worth more than $20 billion. he owns a fleet of more than 5,000 luxury cars and his own 747, which he actually flew himself to the united states. now, his family includes 12 children by three wives. lives in a 1,788-room palace. they also have homes in london, los angeles, new york, and paris. it is a lifestyle that many of us will never experience, to state the obvious. he spent time in the harem, she saw firsthand how they lived. in december 2011, she came "outfront." >> when i went to this supposed audition or casting, it was supposedly to go and entertain rich businessmen in singapore for what at that time was a
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tremendous amount of money. for me. $20,000. which was astronomical for two weeks worth of work. and when i got the job, they told me actually you're being invited to be the guest of the prince of brunei and to attend these parties that he has every night. i said where? i had never even heard of brunei. >> a lot of people haven't heard much about brunei. by the way, check out the book. there's also a scene about the guy that was with the president today. based on the per capita of brunei, it's the fifth richest country in the world, one spot above the united states of america, which explains the sultan of the country of 406,000 people would get the face-to-face with president obama.
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and now we reach out to our sources around the world. a photo of president mahmoud ahmadinejad is upsetting the clerics. i asked if ahmadinejad is feeling the heat. >> reporter: he is feeling some help. to most people, these images look like nothing more than a simple hug. that's not how the clerics are seeing it, where strict interpretation of islamic law says men and will can't touch if they're not related. one cleric calling this a sin. another saying ahmadinejad was clowning around and failing to uphold the dignity of iran. this reaction really highlights a growing conflict in iran between ahmadinejad and his political enemies who say he overstepped his power during his two terms, became too big for iran's good. ahmadinejad not up for re-election in june, but he's hoping one of his aides will make a run. this criticism doesn't bode well for his aide or ahmadinejad's last few months in office.
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erin? now our fifth story "outfront." is lance armstrong bill clinton? the disgraced cyclist says it's only a matter of time before the public forgives him, just like the public forgave bill clinton for the monica lewinsky affair. he says in an interview that people will forgive and forget and remember the good stuff he did. clinton did it. he loves to work, he loves people, he loves to hustle. he's a hero of mine. he's a tough guy, he's smart. surround himself with good people and ten years later he's president of the world. yes. but can it be done for lance? all right, stephanie, let me start with you. the americans want to believe in redemption. you've got michael vick of the dog thing playing in the nfl. hugh grant still acting in movies. we all remember that.
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i'm not going to talk about it. robert downey jr., charlie sheen. the list seems never ending. why can't we believe in lance? >> don't start with me on michael vick. i'm too big a dog lover, erin. but i think the key difference between bill clinton is i think 70% of the american people agreed with me that he shouldn't be impeached for his private life. his cheating had nothing to do with his job. whereas lance's cheating has everything to do with his job and why people believed in him, were inspired by him and it all turned out to be a lie and it went on for many, many years. >> she raises an interesting point. there's cheating and then there's cheating. lots of people cheat in their personal lives and professionally. >> he was a narcissist, a sociopath and a d-bag. >> and they did spell it out. >> and you say his woel career
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wasn't fraudulent. he had this one soert of personal issue. if it were just doping, people would forgive lance. it's really sort of the violence that came out who he knew were telling the truth and who he is still not apologizing to. this is still getting worse, not better. >> president clinton was one of the most popular politicians in the country, now he is. could lance armstrong be redeemed? >> beam look at president clinton and they say part of the reason he became popular is because george bush came in and clinton looked better. so there is that tribal a allegiance that it doesn't mean that they're going to have a lot
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of support, but there's going to be some hard core people who will identify with you and where as the problem with lance armstrong is that he doesn't have an obvious constituency. you doechbt have cyclists, cancer survivors. and when you have that group that will stick with you no matter what, you can leverage that. >> or you can be someone like tiger woods. the coverage was just as big and let so many people down. it wasn't steroids. >> he's a funny kpavrm because he's someone who you would think that he would have the tribal loyalty of someone that belonged in his group. he didn't necessarily have that intense loyalty from any particular group that would stick up for him. >> stephanie, this reminded us
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and we were talking about this today and listing all of those amazing things. oh, i'm like that, too. what about rob blagoyavich. he puts lance's comment to shame. let me just play what he had to say. >> and then i thought about mandella. if you're asking me do i see myself like a modern day movie and i'm the jimmy stuart character and i idealistically try to do what's right and then they push back, yeah, i see myself that way. >> i might like that response the best. >> i think the less son, erin is people will forgive extramarital sex, but not delusions of grandeur in that degree. i also think with ex-marital cheating, i think there's a whole new low bar, isn't there?
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>> so all week for cnn's what women want campaign, we've been talking to women for ideas about what they want out of life. one company knows more about what women want than anybody else. that's not just because the author of cheryl works there. in 2009, the company introduced the "like" button. and for the last few years, a lot of people have clicked on what they like. whatever it is. click like. the things you want in your life. and, for most facebook users, liking something on line is a casual and important thing, right? yeah, but it's not. this is like 1984. the people at the university of cambridge looked into this. a research team analyzed the likes of 58,000 facebook users. they say they can determine
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